Multi-hyphenated hip-hop mogul Jermaine Dupri has opened up about his career for The plan, including how Kris Kross had a major impact on hip-hop fashion.

For the latest episode of the Complex series, the producer, songwriter and media director spoke about the acts he helped break and his induction into the Songwriters Hall of Fame. Dupri also suggested that Atlanta was “downplayed” by the media early on and explained how Kris Kross helped introduce rap fashion into jerseys.

“You can’t think of anyone else in ’92 hip-hop who wore baseball jerseys. So that means after 1992, wearing baseball jerseys, soccer jerseys, basketball jerseys, it all came from me and Kris Kross, ”Jermaine explained at point 20:20 of the episode. “But the industry we’re in, they don’t present it like that. We don’t get the credit that we were supposed to have, and that’s kind of what Andre 3000 was saying at the Source Awards, when he said, “The South has something to say. He felt the same energy that night. I have felt the same energy all my life.

Dupri also spoke about previous comments he made about Da Brat and clarified that at the time he didn’t want to work with a female rapper. Then his first effort became “one of the most difficult projects I have ever done in my entire career.”

Elsewhere in the episode, he touched on what his inclusion in the Songwriters Hall of Fame means to him. “In the whole music era, for the past 40 years, the music industry had never seen another Jermaine Dupri, because where I differ from people who’ve been inducted before, it was like Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis, Babyface, even Berry Gordy – they wrote all the songs, they all wrote like R&B records, pop records, “he explained. “None of them had ever written a rap song. So, just for me to get into it as I walked in, I realized what my talent was at that point.”

Watch the full episode of The plan above.